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#1 ·
Getting ready ahead of delivery.

Can anyone let me know for each the 3 levels of charging that can be selected, what the current (Amps) is?
 
#22 ·
Check the "Charging the Vehicle" section of your owner's manual for details on how to determine the charging current for each setting (which depends on the maximum charge current the Level 1 charge cable can provide). Here is the table from the manual for my US-spec (120V household socket) 2021 SE:
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#21 ·
I have a question about the Mini SE, I live in Germany, which has the most expensive electricity globally! We have solar panels on the roof as well as a fuel cell producing around 750w per hour (or ,75kW). The solar produces around 2 - 2,5 kW per hour. In addition to the Mini, we have a iX3 with 80kW battery. We try to optimise the charging of the vehicles, to ensure we buy as little electric as possible, when the sun shines, we load via a wall box at around (iX3 on reduced current) to around 3,5 kW) the reason for this is that if we pump electric into the grid, we get only 25% from the Grid of what we pay for electricity - therefore we aim to use as much as possible. Should the solar not be producing too much electricity, we switch the charge of the BMW to a normal household socket (which then charge at around 2kW) and as the sun swings over the the west, we switch this to reduced which charges at around 1,3 kW) so pretty efficient. The BMW also gives us an indication of the current currently being charged which is very helpful. The mini on the other hand is an enigma to me, when charging on the household socket, if max, reduced or low, it appears to be drawing more that the BMW would on similar settings. It is by far not as easy to understand as the BMW, does anybody have a clue what the charge is likely to be on max, reduced and low when connected to a standard 15Amp 230V household socket?
 
#20 ·
Hi @12pack - did you ever get an answer to your OP?
Mrs Farmer borrowed a Mini EV when her Cooper was in for a service incase we wanted a replacement. I presume your question relates to the home Type 2 AC charging current drawn depending on if you select standard, medium or reduced charging on the central information/charge setting screen?
If we buy the Mini it with be our second EV (Polestar first) & our second charger is down 70m of cable near an out building and drops 25volts at 32 amps alongs this run. This results in me selecting 15amp as a slow charge if it's 'round the back' for the Polestar - I would like to be able to dial up a reduced charging rate and it looks like I can do this with the setting in your OP.
 
#17 ·
Just to make sure I'm understanding this all correctly, I have a mini SE on order and am choosing between the JuiceBox 32 and the JuiceBox 40 for a home Level 2 Charger. I understand the mini will only draw 32, so the smaller JuiceBox should be fine, but the JuiceBox 40 should also work (for "future-proofing") and will not deliver too much power to the mini SE. Thanks in advance for comments.
 
#18 ·
Either EVSE will work. Go with the 40 for future proofing. Just make sure you have the proper voltage amps at your place of charging.
If you do not require a "smart charger" check out the 40 amp charger from Grizzle E. I recently purchased one and it is a solid UL approved unit made in Canada. Check it out. (I have no ownership interest in this company). Gd luck and enjoy your SE. It is a blast to drive.
 
#14 ·
Range of an EV has to be highly qualified. Under what conditions are you asking? If one lives in a moderate climate (e.g. southern California), and drives mostly city streets, the range should far exceed 110 miles. But if one lives in a cold climate (e.g. Montana) and drives mostly highway (80+ MPH in Montana), 110 miles would not be possible in late December.
 
#15 ·
Agree. I own Tesla and know exactly what you are stating. I was simply inquiring about the range experience of SE owners. In my case most of the driving will be at moderate suburban/city street speeds, some stop and go traffic and moderate to high summer temperatures with AC engaged. Would appreciate comments from current owners as to expected range under these conditions. Thanks.
 
#11 ·
Thank you, tamasd! I think your wife will love the SE--I certainly do. :)

Thank you for sharing your experience and observations. I suspect you're right about the 12V battery. Not all EV manufacturers are smart enough to ensure the 12V battery is also maintained when the car is plugged into the Level 2 charger. I haven't seen anything concrete (yet) about the SE, but the recommendation to keep it plugged in during long periods of storage suggests they do.

Happy holidays to you, as well!
 
#2 ·
Welcome to the forum 12pack. Keep us posted on when it arrives!

Here's what I was able to find in the owners manual:

Level 1 charging cable
The vehicle is supplied with a
Level 1 charging cable.
Level 1 charging cables can be used to
charge the vehicle from grounded household sockets. Charging at household socket
connections is performed with alternating
current.

When a Level 1 charging cable is used, the
efficiency values may differ from those
stated on the energy label.

Level 2 charging cable
The Level 2 charging cable makes it possible to quickly recharge at sockets of designated Level 2 charging stations using a special plug. Charging is performed with
alternating current at designated
Level 2 charging stations. The charging
process can be completed faster than at
household sockets.
A charge current strength of up to maximum 16 A is possible.
The charging cable may be permanently installed at the charging station.

DC charging cable
The DC charging cable that is permanently
installed at the charging station makes is
possible to charge at DC charging stations.
Charging is performed with direct current
at designated DC charging stations. At the
higher capacity current connection of a DC
charger station the charging time is significantly lower than with a household socket
or a Level 2 charging station.
During charging at a DC charging station,
an indication in the instrument cluster, refer to page 225, is displayed.
The DC charging cable is also referred to as
Level 3 DC charging cable


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Welcome to the forum 12pack. Keep us posted on when it arrives!

Here's what I was able to find in the owners manual:

Level 1 charging cable
The vehicle is supplied with a
Level 1 charging cable.
Level 1 charging cables can be used to
charge the vehicle from grounded household sockets. Charging at household socket
connections is performed with alternating
current.

When a Level 1 charging cable is used, the
efficiency values may differ from those
stated on the energy label.

Level 2 charging cable
The Level 2 charging cable makes it possible to quickly recharge at sockets of designated Level 2 charging stations using a special plug. Charging is performed with
alternating current at designated
Level 2 charging stations. The charging
process can be completed faster than at
household sockets.
A charge current strength of up to maximum 16 A is possible.
The charging cable may be permanently installed at the charging station.

DC charging cable
The DC charging cable that is permanently
installed at the charging station makes is
possible to charge at DC charging stations.
Charging is performed with direct current
at designated DC charging stations. At the
higher capacity current connection of a DC
charger station the charging time is significantly lower than with a household socket
or a Level 2 charging station.
During charging at a DC charging station,
an indication in the instrument cluster, refer to page 225, is displayed.
The DC charging cable is also referred to as
Level 3 DC charging cable


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Welcome to the forum 12pack. Keep us posted on when it arrives!

Here's what I was able to find in the owners manual:

Level 1 charging cable
The vehicle is supplied with a
Level 1 charging cable.
Level 1 charging cables can be used to
charge the vehicle from grounded household sockets. Charging at household socket
connections is performed with alternating
current.

When a Level 1 charging cable is used, the
efficiency values may differ from those
stated on the energy label.

Level 2 charging cable
The Level 2 charging cable makes it possible to quickly recharge at sockets of designated Level 2 charging stations using a special plug. Charging is performed with
alternating current at designated
Level 2 charging stations. The charging
process can be completed faster than at
household sockets.
A charge current strength of up to maximum 16 A is possible.
The charging cable may be permanently installed at the charging station.

DC charging cable
The DC charging cable that is permanently
installed at the charging station makes is
possible to charge at DC charging stations.
Charging is performed with direct current
at designated DC charging stations. At the
higher capacity current connection of a DC
charger station the charging time is significantly lower than with a household socket
or a Level 2 charging station.
During charging at a DC charging station,
an indication in the instrument cluster, refer to page 225, is displayed.
The DC charging cable is also referred to as
Level 3 DC charging cable


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I own a Model 3 and thinking of buying the Mini Electric for my wife. Some Mini SE charging issues not totally clear.

Would anyone know if any charge settings need to be adjusted on the Mini SE......
1. Using a Tesla charger with a J1772 adapter
2. Using a 110 wall unit
3. Using a 220 wall unit

Does the Mini SE automaticall adjust to the proper volatge/amps? In other words can I just plug it in and car will choose approriate settings?