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Just purchased my new 2022 MINI this week. This is my car since my wife commandeered our Mustang Mach-E. As a 2 EV family with no ICE cars in the stable this should be interesting. One difference that hit me immediately is charging. Mini charge to 100% all the time; Mach-E charge to no more then 90% on a home L2 charger. I am sure there is more to learn.

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She is also looking at the Mach-E. She has a crash tested dual dog crate that MUST fit regardless of the new car. Nobody has a car on the lot for us to test out the fit. Dealers (Audi & Ford) are telling us it will be November before new inventory arrives. Same as my Mini that I ordered in July. Late September build with an early November delivery. The Mach-E does look nice.
 

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You have exactly what our potential EV fleet will be. have MME 4X Premium ordered and considering a Mini Cooper SE as a DD for either myself or wife, not sure who will have which.
  • do you have one or two L2 wall chargers for the two cars?
  • if one, is one fast enough to charge both cars fully overnight?
  • did you purchase a fast wall charger, or are you using the chargers that came with each car?

congrats on your purchases.
 

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My wife decided to hold off on an EV until next year. Audi's E-tron is scheduled to get much more range and a few other features that she wants. So, we only have a single L2 Grizzl-E wall charger for the time being. The Classic without Bluetooth works great. Everything can be controlled with the Mini app or the car itself. Build quality is fantastic with a great price at $500 (was $450). Last evening I charged from 20% to 100% in just under 4 hours. I believe the L1 charger that came with the car is about triple that time, though I have not tried it.


I did look into a dual charger from Clipper Creek. While pricey, it looks well built and will charge both EV's (dividing the power) until one is done and then push all the power to the remaining EV.


I hope this helps a bit with your decision. I have zero regrets on the Mini as it's met all my expectations, including the fun factor.
 

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You have exactly what our potential EV fleet will be. have MME 4X Premium ordered and considering a Mini Cooper SE as a DD for either myself or wife, not sure who will have which.
  • do you have one or two L2 wall chargers for the two cars?
  • if one, is one fast enough to charge both cars fully overnight?
  • did you purchase a fast wall charger, or are you using the chargers that came with each car?

congrats on your purchases.
Hi, Had one EVSE (Clipper Creek on a 30 amp outlet) and that worked when charging cars on different days. Depending on battery remaining I have charged both on the same evening/night. More because I wanted to then I needed too I added a NEMA 14-50 outlet on 50 amp breaker. The EVSE that comes with the MME will charge at 32 amps and makes a noticeable but not great difference. The Mini Cooper is charged via a Clipper Creek L2 charge on a 30 amp NEMA 14-30 outlet and I configured the Mini for 24 amps. The MINI comes with an L1 120vac EVSE and well I guess it would work in a pinch and you have a lot of time. Only tried the MINI EVSE once.

There is a real difference in these 2 cars not as in bad just different:
  • Ford recommends charging to 90% on the L2 charger and 80% at a fast charger
  • MINI charges to 100% on an L2 charger by design and 80% on a fast charger
  • Both cars smartphone app give you data about charging but you set up any charing in the car.
  • When used as a daily driver I can go several days before charging the MME on the MINI I do charge it more often
  • Generally the MME is charging for a longer period, no mystery there.
I would have bought a small Ford EV but alas they don't make one. The MINI is great and I love it. Driving it is a hoot. The MME is no slouch.

All in all a really great combination of EV's
 

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My wife decided to hold off on an EV until next year. Audi's E-tron is scheduled to get much more range and a few other features that she wants. So, we only have a single L2 Grizzl-E wall charger for the time being. The Classic without Bluetooth works great. Everything can be controlled with the Mini app or the car itself. Build quality is fantastic with a great price at $500 (was $450). Last evening I charged from 20% to 100% in just under 4 hours. I believe the L1 charger that came with the car is about triple that time, though I have not tried it.


I did look into a dual charger from Clipper Creek. While pricey, it looks well built and will charge both EV's (dividing the power) until one is done and then push all the power to the remaining EV.


I hope this helps a bit with your decision. I have zero regrets on the Mini as it's met all my expectations, including the fun factor.
thanks for the recommendation on the ClipperCreek dual charger, that is likely the one we are going to get. Bonus is they are just up the road from us so I can pick up from them locally and save on shipping. and if anything needs servicing (which hopefully will not be necessary) I mig
My wife decided to hold off on an EV until next year. Audi's E-tron is scheduled to get much more range and a few other features that she wants. So, we only have a single L2 Grizzl-E wall charger for the time being. The Classic without Bluetooth works great. Everything can be controlled with the Mini app or the car itself. Build quality is fantastic with a great price at $500 (was $450). Last evening I charged from 20% to 100% in just under 4 hours. I believe the L1 charger that came with the car is about triple that time, though I have not tried it.


I did look into a dual charger from Clipper Creek. While pricey, it looks well built and will charge both EV's (dividing the power) until one is done and then push all the power to the remaining EV.


I hope this helps a bit with your decision. I have zero regrets on the Mini as it's met all my expectations, including the fun factor.


thanks for the recommendation on the ClipperCreek dual charger. This is likely the one we are going to get. Bonus is they are just up the road from us so I can pick up from them locally and save on shipping. and if anything needs servicing (which hopefully will not be necessary) I might be able to drop off and pick up easily.
 

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Hi, Had one EVSE (Clipper Creek on a 30 amp outlet) and that worked when charging cars on different days. Depending on battery remaining I have charged both on the same evening/night. More because I wanted to then I needed too I added a NEMA 14-50 outlet on 50 amp breaker. The EVSE that comes with the MME will charge at 32 amps and makes a noticeable but not great difference. The Mini Cooper is charged via a Clipper Creek L2 charge on a 30 amp NEMA 14-30 outlet and I configured the Mini for 24 amps. The MINI comes with an L1 120vac EVSE and well I guess it would work in a pinch and you have a lot of time. Only tried the MINI EVSE once.

There is a real difference in these 2 cars not as in bad just different:
  • Ford recommends charging to 90% on the L2 charger and 80% at a fast charger
  • MINI charges to 100% on an L2 charger by design and 80% on a fast charger
  • Both cars smartphone app give you data about charging but you set up any charing in the car.
  • When used as a daily driver I can go several days before charging the MME on the MINI I do charge it more often
  • Generally the MME is charging for a longer period, no mystery there.
I would have bought a small Ford EV but alas they don't make one. The MINI is great and I love it. Driving it is a hoot. The MME is no slouch.

All in all a really great combination of EV's

Thanks for the recs on chargers, ClipperCreek comes up a lot on many forums and 2/2 here, sounds like a solid unit. Looking at the HCS-50P for the combination of Mini SE and MME, with both being driven daily and needing to be topped off overnight.

It's great to hear how much you guys all love your Minis. I watched the Munro review and was laughing my ass off when he opened up the hood and discovered the non-frunk . . . at first I thought non-starter, but that's kind of a silly reason to write off an entire car. The rest of the video is actually glowing of the car. I just need to find a place that has one we can look at / sit in / test drive. Or are they so good that we can skip the whole test drive and just buy one?;)

Honestly though, if there are none to test drive, what's the best option? Is driving a standard Cooper S a similar experience?
 

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It seems that next to zero cars are available to test drive. My previous driving experience with Mini was an '06 JCW GP that a friend had purchased new and an older S. I was lucky enough to hit a dealership that had a demo car. While the SE was no match to the JCW GP, it was quite fun to drive nonetheless. I was sold within two minutes. I confirmed with the sales rep that it drove like a Mini and immediately placed my order.

Youtube stories about a Bolt or Leaf being a hoot to drive are tough to come by. Videos about the SE as a boat load of fun are everywhere. A friend with a new Leaf and another with the E-Fiat were both in awe in regard to the build quality difference of my SE. In my opinion, the SE is not the same driving experience as the S, but still big fun.

After two weeks of SE ownership, I'm starting to learn how to push corners. In an ICE car applying the brakes hard causes the nose to dive, which provides front end grip. The SE seems to lift the front end up as you aggressively approach a corner and quickly lift off the throttle, which lessens front end grip. However, as I experiment with corners and throttle lifting, things are becoming smoother and bringing a bigger smile. Moving to the less aggressive regen mode also makes a nice difference for spirited driving.

While it's not a travel car, it is a perfect daily driver.
 

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Thanks for the recs on chargers, ClipperCreek comes up a lot on many forums and 2/2 here, sounds like a solid unit. Looking at the HCS-50P for the combination of Mini SE and MME, with both being driven daily and needing to be topped off overnight.

It's great to hear how much you guys all love your Minis. I watched the Munro review and was laughing my ass off when he opened up the hood and discovered the non-frunk . . . at first I thought non-starter, but that's kind of a silly reason to write off an entire car. The rest of the video is actually glowing of the car. I just need to find a place that has one we can look at / sit in / test drive. Or are they so good that we can skip the whole test drive and just buy one?;)

Honestly though, if there are none to test drive, what's the best option? Is driving a standard Cooper S a similar experience?
Sandy Munro sometimes blasts EV makers for using what he calls the "parts bin". Like it is a bad thing all the time. The Mini EV is all "parts bin" the body, Interior, drive train (i3). Mini(BMW) gets a high margin profitable EV that all of us that own one love!! And just about the entire car is "off the shelf".
 
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