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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old 05-19-2020, 08:05 AM Thread Starter
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Greetings!

Hi! I'm new to the forum, but not the EV world. I've been driving EVs since 2012 when I bought a Nissan Leaf. I upgraded to a Bolt in 2017 for the range. While the Bolt is fun, the Mini Cooper checks more boxes for me (low stance, 2-door body, attractive looks). Given the right deal, I am tempted to move on one as a third car (second being the wife's CMax Energi).

Two things that put me off a little as a sports car - 1) FWD (why?) 2) Hardtop only.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to joining this group and learning about your experiences!
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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old 05-21-2020, 12:29 PM
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Welcome to the forum. What other EV's are you looking at and what did you like/dislike about them?
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When I bought the Bolt, I cross-shopped the Model 3 and the Leaf+. All three cars offer over 200 miles of range. Overall, the Bolt was the best package for me.

I don't like that Nissan still doesn't have thermal management for their battery. My 2012 had lost 20% of its capacity in 5 years. Going to a new Leaf would get me over 200 miles of range, but for how long? Then there was availability. The Leaf+ didn't hit the market until the 2019 model year.

I love that the Tesla is lower slung than the Bolt, and you cannot beat its DCFC rates. I also like that it is RWD. Even though I live in a very snowy region (Syracuse, NY - we average 10' of snow per year), modern traction control and good snow tires do just fine in the snow. What I dislike about the Tesla is the interior user interface. That tablet stuck on the dash looks terrible. And no instrument panel in front of the driver? Sure it cuts cost but no thank you! Elon wants us to think of the thing as a self-driving car from the future, but I just want a car I can enjoy driving. When asked about the lack of instrument panel, he famously stated "you won't miss it". I find that to be rather arrogant as I most certainly would miss it.

The Bolt isn't amazing at any one thing, but it is a good overall car. I prefer a hatchback to a sedan, although I wish it wasn't so tall. I do like the driver interface that Chevy has come up with for their EVs. It's DCFC rate is lower than I'd want, but fast enough to live with. I also like that I could get one fully loaded for the same price as an entry-level Model 3, thanks to dealer discounts. Big pluses for me are 1) heated rear seats for the kids and 2) integrated roof rails since I frequently carry a cargo box or kayaks on the roof.

So that's why I bought a Bolt.

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Cars I'm looking out now are a different story. I have my Bolt for travelling. Now I want something that's just plain fun, but affordable. The Miata of EVs if you will. I have always preferred small sporty cars. Before I had kids, my main drivers were a Honda Prelude and then a Honda S2000. Then the cars got bigger and slower when I had kids. Now that they are older, and I have a little wiggle room in my budget, I want something fun again as a third car. But I'm not going back to gas. The Mini is really the first and only car that fits that niche today.
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I also realized there's a lack of enthusiast geared options out there, or just anything FUN. And even more surprised that MINI hasn't offered extra. Being FWD can be a downside but some JCW-like upgrades to performance for a reasonable premium could get more people on board.

The affordability of the Cooper SE makes a JCW or JCW influenced trim even more doable (in my opinion). Maybe we'll see it in 2021? 2022?

Have you looked at the Polestar 2? It just came out and offers a performance pack that might offer some of the fun you are after.

0-60 times alone of the Polestar 2 show it to be a zippy small EV.

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post #5 of 8 (permalink) Old 05-21-2020, 02:43 PM
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Welcome to the forum GetOffYourGas! Would you prefer the Mini to be a RWD option instead of FWD? As for the convertible, if Mini is going to make the shift as a fully electric brand I can see there being a convertible eventually. Though I wonder if it would be a manual or power roof.
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Have you looked at the Polestar 2? It just came out and offers a performance pack that might offer some of the fun you are after.

0-60 times alone of the Polestar 2 show it to be a zippy small EV.
No, I haven't looked at it. It's larger than I want. It is also $60k - WAY too expensive for a 3rd car. Keep in mind the Mini SE starts around $20k after incentives.

I really want a 2-door car. The B pillar of a 4-door car is too far forward to be comfortable with an arm out the window, which is part of the fun.
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Welcome to the forum GetOffYourGas! Would you prefer the Mini to be a RWD option instead of FWD? As for the convertible, if Mini is going to make the shift as a fully electric brand I can see there being a convertible eventually. Though I wonder if it would be a manual or power roof.
Thanks! Not much going on yet, but I look forward to hearing experiences as people start getting their Minis!

I would prefer the car to be RWD. The Bolt is a torquey FWD car, and that causes two issues that drive me crazy. First is the torque steer. It's manageable, but I shouldn't have to manage. Second is the takeoff. As you accelerate, the car shifts its weight back, and off the front wheels. Then the wheels spin, limiting how fast you can accelerate.

Is Mini talking about going all electric? I missed that. I imagine they would introduce a convertible then, rather than stop making them altogether.
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Thanks! Not much going on yet, but I look forward to hearing experiences as people start getting their Minis!

I would prefer the car to be RWD. The Bolt is a torquey FWD car, and that causes two issues that drive me crazy. First is the torque steer. It's manageable, but I shouldn't have to manage. Second is the takeoff. As you accelerate, the car shifts its weight back, and off the front wheels. Then the wheels spin, limiting how fast you can accelerate.

Is Mini talking about going all electric? I missed that. I imagine they would introduce a convertible then, rather than stop making them altogether.
I've been hearing rumors since last year that BMW plans on making Mini a fully electric brand. I don't know if it's been made official yet or not.

https://www.greencarreports.com/news...o-all-electric
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